True Woodies vote Labour

Published on 29th April 2010 by phinharper

The Election Series

Hello.Welcome to the 2nd part of the SpanThatWorld.com election series. We hear from individuals in the movement who each give us their argument for why a particular political party’s ethos, policies and history are most aligned with the complex stew of principles that definte Woodcraft Folk. Last time the Liberal Democrats had their turn- click HERE to read that article.

DISCLAIMER: The views presented in this series are of the individuals not of the organisation. Woodcraft Folk and The District Fellows Movement remain party politically neutral.


The Woodcraft Folk is a Socialist Organisation:  We Need a Socialist Plan for the Election

By Dan Rawnsley

“This shall be for a bond between us,
That we are of one blood you and I,
That we have cried peace to all
And claimed kinship with every living thing,
That we hate war sloth and greed
And love fellowship,
And that we shall go singing
To the fashioning of a new world.”

- Attributed to William Morris, poet, designer, socialist and revolutionary.

A general election in which the traditional left wing party, the Labour party, is riding on the back of over a decade of right wing policies is not a good moment for us.  In 1997 labour movement activists raised the slogan ‘vote Labour, don’t trust Blair’ and they were right.  What I call for is something similar.  Vote for socialists where possible, Labour where not and be ready to fight after the election, whoever wins.

Where do we come from?

What does it mean to be a socialist and how is the Woodcraft folk socialist?  Well, firstly socialism is a big part of our history.  In the 1920s Leslie Paul led the Woodcraft Folk out of the Kibbo Kift Kindred.  Folk historian Mary Davis describes his view in the early 30s;

‘Paul described the Folk…as [being] in ‘the van of leadership’ for the creation of ‘the new world order’ in which the worker would be ‘emancipated from his wage slavery and given economic power’.’

This is history though, is the folk the same organisation now as it was then?  Well, no, not at all.  However, if you hold true to our envoi I think it’s impossible to not be a socialist.

Underpants and Capitalism:

Let me talk about the underpants gnomes from South Park for a moment.  They had a plan that ran thusly:

  • Step 1: Steal underpants.
  • Step 2: ???
  • Step 3: Profit.

Everyone knew that stealing underpants led to profit, but not how.  They stole underpants without getting anywhere.  Now let us look at your average political party (Lib Dem, Tory, Labour, Green etc…).  Their plan runs thusly:

  • Step 1: Vote for us.
  • Step 2: ???
  • Step 3: A better world/ a fairer world/ an end to ‘broken’ Britain etc…

The fact remains that our idea of a world where there is no sloth or greed, where there is peace for all and kinship between all living beings is not possible under Capitalism.  All of the taxes, cuts and initiatives proposed by political parties will not make that world.  They do not have a plausible step 2 because they don’t talk about anti-capitalism.  Socialists do.  If we are to ever realise our ideals we must be Socialists.

Step 2 and Class:

What is the Socialist step 2?  The action of the organised working class.  Now then, before you begin to argue let me tell you that class is not what you think it is.  Class is not the size of your TV; class is not the number of cars you drive; it is not the size of your house or the clothes you wear.  It’s all about economics.

There are two main classes in society, the ruling class and the working class.  Other classes exist, but they are neither powerful, nor a majority (or even large minority) and although interesting and at times important I will have to ignore them for now.

Now then, the ruling or capitalist class owns what are called ‘the means of production’.  The means of production are things like the tools and machines we work with.  We use these tools to produce things that the capitalist sells for profit.  From our work the capitalist is enriched and does not have to work themselves.  They become wealthy through the labour of others (to me the pinnacle of sloth and greed.)

The working class do not have the means of production at their disposal.  We have only our bodies, our hands and our heads to offer.  We sell these in return for wages.  Most importantly we sell them without a free choice of where to place our labour or for what length of time.  This is why capitalist industry is fundamentally undemocratic and any thinking democrat can have no truck with it.  The fact is that most people in the Woodcraft Folk are working class and the overwhelming majority of the world’s population are working class.

So where do we go from this position of weakness in relation to our capitalist masters?  The crux of the socialist step 2 is that the only force that can overthrow Capitalism and build a better world of peace and fellowship is the organised working class.  With our hands on the levers of production if we collectively refuse to work we stop the world.  Our most powerful act is to fold our arms and do nothing.

What makes a better, more united society possible is that through this struggle we can only succeed if we unite across all boundaries of race, gender, sexuality and disability.  A strike has to be co-operative to be effective, so you can’t be picky about who joins in.  Whereas all the main political parties talk about inclusion and diversity, it is only the labour movement which by its actions points towards it.  To be in the Woodcraft Folk means being part of a Socialist organisation.  To be a Socialist means supporting the working class.

What Do We Do in the Election?

I’ve made the case for a socialist outlook for the Woodcraft Folk.  But what should socialists do around the election?  Socialists have no faith in the parliament of the ruling class to bring about our vision of the future.  That’s something only we can do together.

‘If you are looking for a Moses to lead you out of the capitalist wilderness you will stay right where you are.  I would not lead you into this promised land if I could, because if I could lead you in, someone else could lead you out.’

- Eugene Debs, American trade unionist.

That said; we can’t ignore the election.  Even at times of massive class conflict people have looked to parliament for guidance.  It is essential that socialists be elected to parliament on the basis that they are democratically accountable to the movement outside parliament.  This is so that they can advocate socialist ideas and fight for reforms which can point towards socialism (a shorter working week, a just transition to ecologically sustainable production for example).  We are, however, far from being in this enviable position.

The Labour party was created to fulfil this purpose.  Elements of the workers movement of the early 20th century built it to act as a working class voice in politics.  Today, the democratic control is gone, the number of Labour party socialists is pitifully small, but the link still exists through the trade unions which fund the Labour party.  It is for this reason that Socialists should vote Labour.

After the election we will face cuts in education, wages and public sector services. We need to fight back.

We shouldn’t vote Labour with any illusions.  Just like any other party going in to the next election the Labour party will make vicious cuts.  We must also fight for working class control of the Labour party and for members’ control of the unions to force the Labour party in to becoming a democratically accountable, working class party.

Voting for Labour and Socialist candidates is not the most important thing you can do.  If you believe in and hold true to the text I quoted at the start of this article you should become a class struggle activist.  You should organise in your college, university or workplace to oppose cuts and be ready to fight whatever form of government is elected.

As politically conscious working class people we do not have any illusions with parliament.  We elect it only so as to eventually destroy it.  If the Ashcroft scandal, the bank bailout and MPs expenses have not proved to you that we need to get rid of Capitalism then you should be put in a museum, as you are surely a fairly unique relic by now.  Politics is about more than voting.  Vote Socialist, vote Labour, but become an activist.  The choice is between Socialism and barbarism and the choice is yours.


…or the twelve hour day, the smashing of the movements of 1848, Imperialism, the brutal crushing of the 1871 Paris Commune, strike breaking, fascism, the first world war, the Great Depression, the Spanish civil war, the second world war, the Vietnam war, Reganism, Thatcherism, the Falklands War, the Miners’ Strike of 1984/85, the Gulf wars, the war in Kosovo, Tiananmen Square, starvation in a world of plenty, thalidomide, asbestosis, the deaths of well over 500000 trade unionists and socialists in the 20th century alone etc…

Want to contribute to the election series?

Want to have your say on the election? Got a different view of Woodies that isn’t coming through here? Let us know and we’d be more than happy to get your thoughts online! You can submit anonymously if you like – just drop an e-mail to Phin. Thank you.

Nice little crash course in Marxism there! ;)

I’d actually argue that Lib Dem are further left (more socialist) than Labour

Ilya on 11th March 2010.

There seems currently Ilya, actually to be a complete split in the Lib Dems with Nick Clegg seemingly pro-Tory in order to try and woo votes from there. He wants bigger spending cuts and all. And, if he enters into any sort of Tory coalition there’s threats of resignation from all accross the Lib Dem left. It could get really interesting to watch.

Kieran on 12th March 2010.

I disagree with the idea that the Lib Dems are in any way socialist. The point of the crash course in Marxism was to demonstrate what is commonly meant by socialist. I emphasised the importance of a political party controlled by and speaking for the working class. The closest thing to that (though it admittedly is distant from it) is the Labour party. There is no organic link between workers and the Lib Dems. In fact the Lib Dem candidate for the London mayoral said he would ’sort out’ the Rail and Maritime Transport Union (RMT). Check out this article by Ed Maltby, who some of you may remember. http://www.workersliberty.org/story/2009/09/24/don%E2%80%99t-be-fooled-lib-dems

Rawnsley on 12th March 2010.

I agree in the lib dems there is no organic link between workers and the party, as crap as Labour have become they still have a bulk of Working class supporters and Trade union support which we can’t simply ignore and react with simply ‘all 3 are exactly the same’, vote socialist/greens, etc where you can, Labour everywhere else!

Ciara on 13th March 2010.

although didn’t the Labour party try to cut woodies funding not long ago?!

Ciara on 13th March 2010.

They did cut our funding, allegedly due to our anti-iraq war stance, although obviously they used different reasons.

OK, essentially socialist politics are supposed to come from the people, but last I checked, which is obviously some time ago (I don’t bother that much as I won’t be old enough to vote) lib dem were proposing more public spending projects than labour. Even if there isn’t a direct link, the left wing principles exist in them.

Ilya on 13th March 2010.

I see Lib dems as the lefty-ish version of Conservatives, the party and most of their supporters are still committed to neo-liberal economics and the savage public spending cuts they’ve proposed are just as bad if not worse than labour

Ciara on 17th March 2010.

the lib dems try and take votes from whoever they can – which in some places makes them look towards more labour-ish policies and in others towards the conservatives. and then they look for the student vote on top up fees.

in my area (newcastle) once a labour strong hold they’ve been terrible…seems like the only thing they’ve achieved is no council tax rises which is hardly revolutionary.

Nick on 19th March 2010.

I agree with some of the basic philosophies. But how can the Labour Party and even the Trade Unions bring about the required change?

The Labour party has proven over 13 years in office that they are a big business party. They may be funded by the Unions but the unions don’t seem to have much say in what goes on. You’re more likely to get a say if you want a place in the Lords.

I don’t think a general strike will ever happen, what could happen though is that worker cooperatives take over. Worker cooperatives are completly anti-capitalist, the capital is in the hands of the workers, and are proven to work.

However the Unions have never supported worker cooperatives. Why? Becuase their traditional role doesn’t work in a workers cooperative. They don’t want to see a change as it would destroy their role.

Marx himself said “Tell the working men to invest their efforts in producer (worker) cooperatives rather than consumer owned cooperatives (like the Coop). The latter merely scratch at the surface of capitalism while the former undermine its foundations.”

Allie Cannell on 29th March 2010.

oh and i would say that revolution isn’t an answer to how.

How do you get to revolution? and what comes after revolution? ;)

Allie Cannell on 29th March 2010.

It’s interesting how many established middle class people want to ignor the fact they are middle class, and try to pretend that they have no more choice than the working class.

This of course is no true, and although I hate the term underclass it is what our society has created and continues to push.

For people worrying about getting damp in their accomindation fixed, they couldn’t give a dam about tridant. It isn’t relevant to them. As a movement the Woodcraft Folk has a moral responsibility to ensure that we can have some input into these communities which for many in the movement will be foreign.

Like the young people who will not go to Uni because of the debt. They don’t have parents to fall back on as a safety net with the means to support them.

Just a bit feed up of woodies pretenting that we cater for the whole of society. The Woodcraft Folk is an exclusive white middle class movement with good intentions with pockets of really good work in diverse communities and until it is brave enought to face up to this it will not change.

Danny on 1st June 2010.
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